Don't forget major players like the Cartels, Mexico, and Canada getting involved. I'd expect China and Russia to take Hawaii and possibly establish beach heads for "humanitarian purposes" in Cali. The Brits might throw in the same in the East.
Agreed. Unless they have unrest at home, of course. I hadn't thought of it till now, but one reason we could be meddling is to try and keep such countries from interfering in our problems while we go through domestic turmoil. It's a dumb as rocks gambit, but there it is.
I'm think of Trump. If there were a civil war between him and the federal government, the EU, Canada, Japan, Mexico, etc. would side with the liberals.
you forgot to map the outside forces. USSR and Adolf/Benito, as well as the internationally recruited red brigades. Israel & EU are probably best mapped to USSR and the international brigades. You can bet the regime would call on them for their duty, in case a civil war in the US breaks out. This would be a great opportunity for them to push the Davos agenda.
Question remains: where are Adolf and Benito? Without them, Franco would not have won.
got it. Just though that in case of civil war in the US, you will most likely have foreign powers meddling. That is actually quite comparable to the Spanish Civil War, as it will be - or at least thought of to be - a battle between social orders, nationalist vs. globalist/communist
The ideological angle would be impossible to avoid and any adversary worth their salt would jump in on it. 100% agree.
Hell, a while back I made a joke about seeing a future where I drive a T-34 tank into battle. It's funny because it rings of the truth you explain above.
I agree with that assessment. I have both Croatian , Serb, and Slovenian friends.
I will relate to you the level of hatred held by most Croatians. At the outset of the war, Serbian forces overran her family's village. The Serbs destroyed the village, and took away her eighteen year old brother and others . He/ they were never seen or heard of again, right up until this very day , my friends wife cannot speak about that event.
Theres more but I think that you understand what im trying to convey.
My opinion, Serbs and Russians, not much difference between the two.
I may not have time for that, but will possibly get around to it in the future. It will be exceedingly difficult to figure, because many folks went one way or the other simply because that's who controlled an area when shit hit the fan.
There's probably quite a lot of numbers out there at the moment, but don't forget important stuff like military equipment and so on too.
I don’t see this current ( last three years) crop of unwanted foreign felons doing anything to support any red zone. Certainly not Texas. And I think I see the south east become an entity. Kinda like our first civil war. But honestly, I think we need a new revolution. The enemy is rather obvious now.
I keep thinking of the "shell game" approach to empire resistance. Basically everyone do their own thing and constantly resist the centralized authority at every turn.
Like my connection between CNT and the small towns of America. Just keep saying "No" and kill the bastards with a million cuts.
Like our first Civil War, you say .Please tell Phisto and myself and others commenting , Alan , exactly whose children would you like to sacrifice for your second civil war? Which mothers , fathers, grandparents. Which cities? States? Or is your idea of a civil war a bloodless civil war.
Just a heads up, they dont use muskets anymore like in your first civil war.
buc-ee is running logistics!?
Amateurs talk tactics. Professionals talk logistics.
😂
Don't forget major players like the Cartels, Mexico, and Canada getting involved. I'd expect China and Russia to take Hawaii and possibly establish beach heads for "humanitarian purposes" in Cali. The Brits might throw in the same in the East.
If there was a civil war, pretty much every country under the sun would side against the American Nationalists.
Agreed. Unless they have unrest at home, of course. I hadn't thought of it till now, but one reason we could be meddling is to try and keep such countries from interfering in our problems while we go through domestic turmoil. It's a dumb as rocks gambit, but there it is.
Do you mean the American government? I think they map more to the Republicans.
Nationalists were the rebels.
That said, there would be a ton of involvement.
I'm think of Trump. If there were a civil war between him and the federal government, the EU, Canada, Japan, Mexico, etc. would side with the liberals.
you forgot to map the outside forces. USSR and Adolf/Benito, as well as the internationally recruited red brigades. Israel & EU are probably best mapped to USSR and the international brigades. You can bet the regime would call on them for their duty, in case a civil war in the US breaks out. This would be a great opportunity for them to push the Davos agenda.
Question remains: where are Adolf and Benito? Without them, Franco would not have won.
That was an intentional omission, as I think I explained in the piece?
In any case, I was trying to keep it focused and somewhat manageable for the exercise.
got it. Just though that in case of civil war in the US, you will most likely have foreign powers meddling. That is actually quite comparable to the Spanish Civil War, as it will be - or at least thought of to be - a battle between social orders, nationalist vs. globalist/communist
The ideological angle would be impossible to avoid and any adversary worth their salt would jump in on it. 100% agree.
Hell, a while back I made a joke about seeing a future where I drive a T-34 tank into battle. It's funny because it rings of the truth you explain above.
Interesting Thoughts Phisto...
Or would the result be like the Former Yugoslavia?
I think the latter is more likely, but with significantly less violence. Slavs are nuts!
I agree with that assessment. I have both Croatian , Serb, and Slovenian friends.
I will relate to you the level of hatred held by most Croatians. At the outset of the war, Serbian forces overran her family's village. The Serbs destroyed the village, and took away her eighteen year old brother and others . He/ they were never seen or heard of again, right up until this very day , my friends wife cannot speak about that event.
Theres more but I think that you understand what im trying to convey.
My opinion, Serbs and Russians, not much difference between the two.
That's why I think we're very far from a civil war here. We just don't have the capacity for hatred like that.
I mean, to have family vanish and never speak about it again?
Seems impossible in America.
Can numbers be painted within margin of 1000 for each? Feel that might help visualize the Spanish sides
Numbers for what?
People
I may not have time for that, but will possibly get around to it in the future. It will be exceedingly difficult to figure, because many folks went one way or the other simply because that's who controlled an area when shit hit the fan.
There's probably quite a lot of numbers out there at the moment, but don't forget important stuff like military equipment and so on too.
Anyway, good question.
I don’t see this current ( last three years) crop of unwanted foreign felons doing anything to support any red zone. Certainly not Texas. And I think I see the south east become an entity. Kinda like our first civil war. But honestly, I think we need a new revolution. The enemy is rather obvious now.
I keep thinking of the "shell game" approach to empire resistance. Basically everyone do their own thing and constantly resist the centralized authority at every turn.
Like my connection between CNT and the small towns of America. Just keep saying "No" and kill the bastards with a million cuts.
Alan, your Enemy?
Like our first Civil War, you say .Please tell Phisto and myself and others commenting , Alan , exactly whose children would you like to sacrifice for your second civil war? Which mothers , fathers, grandparents. Which cities? States? Or is your idea of a civil war a bloodless civil war.
Just a heads up, they dont use muskets anymore like in your first civil war.
I'm going to have to put this on my calendar. There's a lot to unpack.
I'm hoping some folks pick it apart. That's the goal of something like this.
One rodent to rule them all…. This was an excellent read! And you cranked that out hella fast!
It was fun. A good benchmark for the knowledge I have on command. I’ll come back to it in a few years and marvel how bad it is.
But that’s the point. Good questions are better than any answer.
Good. I think the most useful part about this essay is later I can point to it when people ask if the US will go this route.
lol no it won't
The dead don't need their stuff?