I voted for the communists, the real ones, who will never win here, because fuck you (not you personally).
New Mexico isn't a swing state. I might have voted for Trump in a swing state because he is the best monkey wrench we have available to hurl into the spokes of this progressive/democratic garbage party of hurt.
Meanwhile, back here on Subst@ck sayin' help your neighbors you fools they're all you've got.
I'm a progressive independent - or I WAS. I vote 3rd party each and every presidential election for the past 50 years. I voted for the two socialist guys because they were the ONLY platform that mentioned the genocide in Gaza. and doing something qbout it No one else will even mention standing up to Israel, though Jill Stein did - but not in the Voters Guide.
Why did I vote "communist?"(socialist, actually. They're two different things.) Because anyone who REALLY understands what and who own and control things globally, knows the aim is technocratic takeover, social credit scores, digital twins, 'smart' cities, and Trans Humanism - not communism.
You're right in that Harris and Trump both suck. Dems suck.; they will stab their own in the back., betray and use them. Repubs stick together and are unified. It's why they have controlled most of the elections throughout history. I'll give them that. They are ruthless and it works because it's unity of a sort.
Think Trump won't be that puppet who furthers our slavery along? Wrong. have you all forgotten Operation Warp Speed and permanent tax breaks for the ultra rich, when the middle class and working poor will pay for it? He wouldn't have got this far otherwise, if he weren't .a useful tool of the owners in what I can only call Theater.
What bothers me more is the forced autocracy of 'conservative' authoritarianism - forced Christianity, forced 'family values,' forced male control of women's bodies again - even the right to birth control; forced dumbing down of people to the point where folks are actually threatening to 'kill the commies.' rather than unite with others against the real enslavers. So yeah, I voted commie because if they in their ignorance are gonna call me that without knowing shit about it, I may as well put the target on my back for real. AmeriKKKa has always been racist, bigot, xenophobic, and homophobic. Nothing new there. But no one can MANDATE tolerance and acceptance like the dem party tried to do. No one can MANDATE obedience to poison jabs if people don't want them. Too bad that caused people to hate the victims rather than the perpetrators of this BS.
You're right about one thing: go local, know your neighbors, help each other out. We're all we've got now.
Harris and her fan base represent dumb obedience to a far darker agenda that they refused to see or understand, which is why many progressives got out many years ago. Their Owners are dark, the herd followers are ignorant. Both sides are self righteous idiots if they follow their 'side' and think there is that much difference between the two sides' owner-orchestrated propaganda brainwash agenda - which is to keep us divided and fighting about semantics while they lock in the prison system with surveillance, AI, digital twinning, digital centralized banking and money, digital education, digital social media scores, vaccine ID passes, ad nauseum. I think we may have a better chance of fighting it with conservatives - yet they have their own authoritarian plans and are so blind to the fact that the 'freedom' movement is being used as well for nefarious ends, and we are not free unless and until we unite against the Owners. When we came together to fight the vax mandates, I had hoped we'd be a united front against the new world Odor. Nope. Still infighting over trifles.
Excellent answer. You really honored your kids with a thoughtful, meaning statement that provides them with a way to approach future elections (and the world in general)!
I can't help but wonder what would have happened if everyone disgusted with the insanity of this fiasco of an election decided to vote for the same third party person. Reading these comments, I think maybe i don't belong here in this substack. People here are still stuck in the left/right wars. It's way beyond that. That's kindergarten compared with what we're really up against. That said, your answer to your students is a fair and thoughtful one - and that is something nowadays.
We've had a lot of talking AT labeled as talking TO.
Post Brexit a TED talk about how "no one was actually talking to the more rural people" - but as it goes on it becomes clear that it's not about learning why the more rural types more heavily in favor of brexit felt that way and what legitimate issues underlied that, but to better explain the benefits of rubbing shoulders with different cultures.
Talking AT, not really TO.
I asked the person who recommended the talk if the people in Rotherham needed even more cultural exposure...
Similar issues from the laptop class re: "what's the matter with Kansas" , or a recent NPR bit with a latin aauthor trying to explain why more and more Latins are going "far right" for Trump/etc.
It's not a two-way conversation where they try to listen to the other side and figure out if it's a perception or legitimate problem - they dismiss that. It's them telling the rest of us a better way
Wholly wholesome. As a teacher myself -- albeit in a very different context -- I can relate. The need for transparency and honesty toward others about one's reasons for voting or supporting X or Y feels paramount to me. It fosters goodwill in almost every domain.
Despite all the noise that is inevitably going to follow this election's result, I do hope you Americans get what you want; whatever decisions are made in the U.S. are felt across the world. That's just how it is nowadays. The entire world lives under the reign of the American cultural Empire.
Wow! Where are you living now? I think that is weird that America is viewed as some sort of Global Icon but I guess it is understandable we are sort of an experiment!
I live in Hungary, but I've spent most of my life in New Zealand. The American cultural Empire is not an Empire in the most traditional sense, it's one that can be found in movies, entertainment writ large, technology, politics; in fact, we're so utterly overrun by it that at times it seems impossible to see anything else. Even in this country, it is almost inescapable.
Of course the most curious thing about this is that many Americans do not even realize this is the case. Because they *live* in America, it's only natural that everything is about their country. And, if you look closely, you'll notice Americans in international spaces online (obviously "online" is global) say stuff like "our country", without considering for even a moment that someone may be reading who is *not* from America.
Does that make sense? I hope so. Have a great day, Holly.
I did not vote in a presidential election for the first time since 1976. That was far harder for me to do than to stand in line to write in Cthulhu, as my stepdaughter did, or to vote for Trump, as my under 30 stepson did.
I'm in Ohio and couldn't vote for Jill Stein if I had wanted to because Ohio Republicans took her off the ballot due to a technicality that would have taken Harris off the ballot as well if it was equally enforced. Weird, huh?
I would have voted for Sherrod Brown had he not voted for money for Ukraine and Israel and voted to crush the railroad workers' strike. If you're wondering why he lost, that last one is why, BTW. There was nothing and no one on my ballot to vote for.
This election cycle I've seen the word 'Populism' used as a pejorative normally along side much more serious accusations. But is it bad? First, populism is literally a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group with "the elite". Harris represented the Elite.
The US is focused on 'We the People." We are founded on, and remain rooted in populist, not elite, monarchy, dictatorial, or other non democratic institutions.
What we saw in this election was that the Democrats have increasingly become the elites. The rich, highly educated, supported by the academies and big businesses, and focused on large governments. In fact, many of the neocon warhawks from the Republican Party switched over the support the Democrats this time. They're statists.
Now here's the twist. It's the statists that become dictators because you can't be a dictator without a massive state. Conversely, you can't be a dictator with the populism of liberal humanism that provides rights to citizens. As a Libertarian, I love this. Trump is supported by people who hate dictators.
The founding fathers created a tempered populism knowing that there needed to be checks and balances but they also enshrined small federal government, distribution of responsibility to the states, and personal agency. This isn't different from how we raise our children with checks and balances so they can thrive and mature. It was very libertarian of them.
This election WAS a populist revolt.
And that's GREAT because who they a revolted against are increasingly elite statists.
Now those who are worried about Trump? If you approach it from a statist lens, he IS terrifying because you fear he would use the state the only way you can see the state being used. He's a mirror to you.
However, as a Libertarian, I say the populism that supported Trump are also the populists who very much dislike statists. If you think they'd just accept a dictator... you don't understand conservative and liberal humanist populism.
I think the shrieks and lamentations about tyranny are the sounds of elite statists losing power and fearing that the new government will govern just like them, but in opposition to where they wanted to go. That says a lot about the politics we are dealing with.
I appreciate you as a social studies teacher. When I was in the 7th grade there was an election and my social studies teacher really got into it and exlained the parties and had us look at all the candidates. I mean ALL the candidates. I remember even then, I did not like the idea of parties where I was expected to fall in with everyone else so when I chose my mock vote I chose some independent guy because he represented to me the underdog and individuality. Probably not the best voting technique and looking back I think he was some halfbaked oddball millionaire but that didn't deter my teacher from presenting All the facts. When my kids were in elementary school and Obama was running, Gary Johnson was running (his first time around) as an independent. My kids came home and asked me who I was voting for. I told them Gary Johnson and they had no clue who I was talking about. They were told there were two parties and were given obama coloring sheets. That's when I realized I needed to take my kids education in hand. They were not getting the same education I had gotten. I am glad you are teaching.
Friend, I love your answer! So complete and helpful to students! Where are you again? I am in Fort Worth and even though I’m a Sub and yesterday I subbed in an Algebra class NO ONE talked about the election in class, in the halls, in the teachers room in the office it was really sort of eerie!
I voted for the communists, the real ones, who will never win here, because fuck you (not you personally).
New Mexico isn't a swing state. I might have voted for Trump in a swing state because he is the best monkey wrench we have available to hurl into the spokes of this progressive/democratic garbage party of hurt.
Meanwhile, back here on Subst@ck sayin' help your neighbors you fools they're all you've got.
Help your neighbors!! 🇺🇸🙏
I'm a progressive independent - or I WAS. I vote 3rd party each and every presidential election for the past 50 years. I voted for the two socialist guys because they were the ONLY platform that mentioned the genocide in Gaza. and doing something qbout it No one else will even mention standing up to Israel, though Jill Stein did - but not in the Voters Guide.
Why did I vote "communist?"(socialist, actually. They're two different things.) Because anyone who REALLY understands what and who own and control things globally, knows the aim is technocratic takeover, social credit scores, digital twins, 'smart' cities, and Trans Humanism - not communism.
You're right in that Harris and Trump both suck. Dems suck.; they will stab their own in the back., betray and use them. Repubs stick together and are unified. It's why they have controlled most of the elections throughout history. I'll give them that. They are ruthless and it works because it's unity of a sort.
Think Trump won't be that puppet who furthers our slavery along? Wrong. have you all forgotten Operation Warp Speed and permanent tax breaks for the ultra rich, when the middle class and working poor will pay for it? He wouldn't have got this far otherwise, if he weren't .a useful tool of the owners in what I can only call Theater.
What bothers me more is the forced autocracy of 'conservative' authoritarianism - forced Christianity, forced 'family values,' forced male control of women's bodies again - even the right to birth control; forced dumbing down of people to the point where folks are actually threatening to 'kill the commies.' rather than unite with others against the real enslavers. So yeah, I voted commie because if they in their ignorance are gonna call me that without knowing shit about it, I may as well put the target on my back for real. AmeriKKKa has always been racist, bigot, xenophobic, and homophobic. Nothing new there. But no one can MANDATE tolerance and acceptance like the dem party tried to do. No one can MANDATE obedience to poison jabs if people don't want them. Too bad that caused people to hate the victims rather than the perpetrators of this BS.
You're right about one thing: go local, know your neighbors, help each other out. We're all we've got now.
Help your neighbors. Thats it my friend!
I didn’t vote for either but I’m happy Harris lost. She and her fan base represent a far darker side of America.
Harris and her fan base represent dumb obedience to a far darker agenda that they refused to see or understand, which is why many progressives got out many years ago. Their Owners are dark, the herd followers are ignorant. Both sides are self righteous idiots if they follow their 'side' and think there is that much difference between the two sides' owner-orchestrated propaganda brainwash agenda - which is to keep us divided and fighting about semantics while they lock in the prison system with surveillance, AI, digital twinning, digital centralized banking and money, digital education, digital social media scores, vaccine ID passes, ad nauseum. I think we may have a better chance of fighting it with conservatives - yet they have their own authoritarian plans and are so blind to the fact that the 'freedom' movement is being used as well for nefarious ends, and we are not free unless and until we unite against the Owners. When we came together to fight the vax mandates, I had hoped we'd be a united front against the new world Odor. Nope. Still infighting over trifles.
Excellent answer. You really honored your kids with a thoughtful, meaning statement that provides them with a way to approach future elections (and the world in general)!
I can't help but wonder what would have happened if everyone disgusted with the insanity of this fiasco of an election decided to vote for the same third party person. Reading these comments, I think maybe i don't belong here in this substack. People here are still stuck in the left/right wars. It's way beyond that. That's kindergarten compared with what we're really up against. That said, your answer to your students is a fair and thoughtful one - and that is something nowadays.
What an outstanding teacher you are. Your kids are lucky to have an adult talking to them instead of at them.
That’s it.
One colleague refuses to discuss it. Another thinks the kids are about to riot.
Ridiculous.
Talking to instead of at.
We've had a lot of talking AT labeled as talking TO.
Post Brexit a TED talk about how "no one was actually talking to the more rural people" - but as it goes on it becomes clear that it's not about learning why the more rural types more heavily in favor of brexit felt that way and what legitimate issues underlied that, but to better explain the benefits of rubbing shoulders with different cultures.
Talking AT, not really TO.
I asked the person who recommended the talk if the people in Rotherham needed even more cultural exposure...
Similar issues from the laptop class re: "what's the matter with Kansas" , or a recent NPR bit with a latin aauthor trying to explain why more and more Latins are going "far right" for Trump/etc.
It's not a two-way conversation where they try to listen to the other side and figure out if it's a perception or legitimate problem - they dismiss that. It's them telling the rest of us a better way
"YO, TEACH!"
[dramatic pause]
"Thanks."
[Cheesy smile, fade to credits]
DONT YOU
FORGET ABOUT ME
Wholly wholesome. As a teacher myself -- albeit in a very different context -- I can relate. The need for transparency and honesty toward others about one's reasons for voting or supporting X or Y feels paramount to me. It fosters goodwill in almost every domain.
Despite all the noise that is inevitably going to follow this election's result, I do hope you Americans get what you want; whatever decisions are made in the U.S. are felt across the world. That's just how it is nowadays. The entire world lives under the reign of the American cultural Empire.
I hope we light the way to our better nature.
Wow! Where are you living now? I think that is weird that America is viewed as some sort of Global Icon but I guess it is understandable we are sort of an experiment!
I live in Hungary, but I've spent most of my life in New Zealand. The American cultural Empire is not an Empire in the most traditional sense, it's one that can be found in movies, entertainment writ large, technology, politics; in fact, we're so utterly overrun by it that at times it seems impossible to see anything else. Even in this country, it is almost inescapable.
Of course the most curious thing about this is that many Americans do not even realize this is the case. Because they *live* in America, it's only natural that everything is about their country. And, if you look closely, you'll notice Americans in international spaces online (obviously "online" is global) say stuff like "our country", without considering for even a moment that someone may be reading who is *not* from America.
Does that make sense? I hope so. Have a great day, Holly.
I did not vote in a presidential election for the first time since 1976. That was far harder for me to do than to stand in line to write in Cthulhu, as my stepdaughter did, or to vote for Trump, as my under 30 stepson did.
I'm in Ohio and couldn't vote for Jill Stein if I had wanted to because Ohio Republicans took her off the ballot due to a technicality that would have taken Harris off the ballot as well if it was equally enforced. Weird, huh?
I would have voted for Sherrod Brown had he not voted for money for Ukraine and Israel and voted to crush the railroad workers' strike. If you're wondering why he lost, that last one is why, BTW. There was nothing and no one on my ballot to vote for.
The glory of Rome is eternal!
Well said. You’re a good egg.
Town Karen: "You're a teacher and voted for Trump?!? Explain it to me like I'm a twelve year old!!!"
Oh...
Thankfully my town is very Red. More likely to occur the OTHER direction.
This election cycle I've seen the word 'Populism' used as a pejorative normally along side much more serious accusations. But is it bad? First, populism is literally a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group with "the elite". Harris represented the Elite.
The US is focused on 'We the People." We are founded on, and remain rooted in populist, not elite, monarchy, dictatorial, or other non democratic institutions.
What we saw in this election was that the Democrats have increasingly become the elites. The rich, highly educated, supported by the academies and big businesses, and focused on large governments. In fact, many of the neocon warhawks from the Republican Party switched over the support the Democrats this time. They're statists.
Now here's the twist. It's the statists that become dictators because you can't be a dictator without a massive state. Conversely, you can't be a dictator with the populism of liberal humanism that provides rights to citizens. As a Libertarian, I love this. Trump is supported by people who hate dictators.
The founding fathers created a tempered populism knowing that there needed to be checks and balances but they also enshrined small federal government, distribution of responsibility to the states, and personal agency. This isn't different from how we raise our children with checks and balances so they can thrive and mature. It was very libertarian of them.
This election WAS a populist revolt.
And that's GREAT because who they a revolted against are increasingly elite statists.
Now those who are worried about Trump? If you approach it from a statist lens, he IS terrifying because you fear he would use the state the only way you can see the state being used. He's a mirror to you.
However, as a Libertarian, I say the populism that supported Trump are also the populists who very much dislike statists. If you think they'd just accept a dictator... you don't understand conservative and liberal humanist populism.
I think the shrieks and lamentations about tyranny are the sounds of elite statists losing power and fearing that the new government will govern just like them, but in opposition to where they wanted to go. That says a lot about the politics we are dealing with.
Here's the risks of looking into a mirror.
https://lnkd.in/gSh7af5u
I appreciate you as a social studies teacher. When I was in the 7th grade there was an election and my social studies teacher really got into it and exlained the parties and had us look at all the candidates. I mean ALL the candidates. I remember even then, I did not like the idea of parties where I was expected to fall in with everyone else so when I chose my mock vote I chose some independent guy because he represented to me the underdog and individuality. Probably not the best voting technique and looking back I think he was some halfbaked oddball millionaire but that didn't deter my teacher from presenting All the facts. When my kids were in elementary school and Obama was running, Gary Johnson was running (his first time around) as an independent. My kids came home and asked me who I was voting for. I told them Gary Johnson and they had no clue who I was talking about. They were told there were two parties and were given obama coloring sheets. That's when I realized I needed to take my kids education in hand. They were not getting the same education I had gotten. I am glad you are teaching.
Friend, I love your answer! So complete and helpful to students! Where are you again? I am in Fort Worth and even though I’m a Sub and yesterday I subbed in an Algebra class NO ONE talked about the election in class, in the halls, in the teachers room in the office it was really sort of eerie!
Lady shotgun. God help Germany. 🙏
Huh?
In Germany we reflect history. I hate Hitler and the beginning of war. I like everyone. 😊
Amen brother.