There's a good point there...but also wouldn't subscribe to it 100%.
It resembles again my talk with the academy of sciences professor who has done (and bless his soul for it) did many great things for science, but in the ways of the world clearly lost the plot.
Or I can bring up my German "foster dad" (there was a student exchange program back then and I was with a German family and stayed connected and visit them when I'm around), who clearly felt that things were off and I guess he thought it was just the not yet cultured thoughts(as in not "western™") of some kid from a post-commie small town when I tried to shed light on the impossibilities of the modern state. Lately he agrees with me on a lot of this stuff or at least quietly acknowledges the substance. Again...bless his soul too...it's not easy to go against what you thought all your life.
I don't think that we're lost. Not yet at least.
I don't think that we don't matter. Well...we could matter but we decided that bitching and complaining is much more safer. I know or at least I think I know the background of this thinking. My father in the "anti-world" (as he likes to call it) wrote once an article to his middle school newspaper...then was visited by the brave upholders of the "existing socialism" from the Interior Ministry. One will quickly learn from experiences like this that it is better to shut up and get on with the agenda.
"It's not that important anyway."
Consequences my brothers. That's what we are seeing right now. It may look like that there will be none, but reality will kick down the door. That's what we're seeing right now.
As I told the professor, in the end you can refer to the "international agreements" but if you want to stop the Russian, you will do it by breaking his nose. If Europe can't field 25k servicemen...that won't do it. It is what it is.
JD Vance obviously didn't say anything new, but I do feel vindicated having someone telling our dear leaders how things will be.
It's also lovely to hear the whining of our "educated" class about how we will be alone and will have to do things our way...without US help.
I mean....that's marvelous. Splendid! That's what I wanted. That's how we will MATTER again. Some people really just trying to survive life without ever truly living.
You can say that the post-war consensus was a dream. It was nice at first. Although the more we stayed asleep, the weirder it got and obviously those saw the hurt of thiy whom these Gutmenschen have sworn to protect. Marx and socialism isn't that fun and joy afterall. Helping people(truly) is a hard job and even less fun...although can be rewarding.
P.S.: you better hurry with burning the USAID to the ground. I saw who they were financing even here and I was not happy.
Eurocrats BTFO. It wasn't a speech, it was an intervention. American blood and treasure spent in your defense, OR your schoolmarmish tattletale totalitarianism. Pick one. But we all know the latter can't exist without the former. Karen can only exist in the bubble of security and comfort provided by the men she hates and wishes to depose.
His speech was a bunch of Liberty rhetoric aimed at the heart of Europe. Don't get me wrong, it's a whip to get the vassals to do his bidding, and was pulled off well. But the Liberty rhetoric was what got us to where we are in the first place.
Namely - the idea that errors and falsehoods have rights is categorically false. Leo XIII's encyclical Libertas is an astounding read on why that is, if one wants to go over that. Now, one can prudentially tolerate bad and untrue ideas for greater purposes; but that is a completely different argument than saying that it is a good, in itself, to tolerate untrue speech and false ideas.
Free speech is the weapon the weak and underpowered side uses in rhetoric to bash the head in of the powerful class in to gain the upper hand. The fact that Vance is using it is, in itself, showing that we're in the less powerful position, using it to maneuver where we want, then crush the foe (one hopes) and then quell free speech. Tell people they can't propagandize our children. They can't blaspheme God. They can't promote Sodomy. They can't lie in the media and political offices. Etc etc.
In other words; the idea that unqualified Liberty is a good, in speech, religion, or anything else... Simply must be rejected, then burnt out; root and branch.
One commenter in here called the Patton quote "over-the-top hyperbole." I call it the hardest fucking quote I've ever read, and it makes my own hyperbolic writing seem squishy and gay by comparison.
The Chris Wright gave another speech in London telling them the climate alarm was all nonsense - great 1-2 punch - hope the silent majority in Europe follows the American lead and throws the communists out
Well written as usual Sir Sobanii. My direct ancestor, one “Devil John” and lieutenant of Francis Marion during the successful campaign to run Lord Cornwallis out of the southern colonies, would most certainly approve. He earned his reputation and nickname due to his penchant for assisting Tories into the hereafter.
Your general point is spot on: it’s time to rethink the TransAtlantic alliance with a “what’s in it for us” attitude, and that isn’t turning the rest of the word trans. The Patton quote is over the top hyperbole yet contains a truth about the horrors of war we would do well to remember as we try to implement this neo-Isolationism and rein in the excessive spending and waste of the American and global Military-Industrial Complex.
We are agreed on this point. Its time to leave NATO, pack up the US assets, including bases and ports of call and head home. America can no longer afford the financial burden. It can be better spent at home, think North Carolina and the disaster last summer.Take care of your own.
Let Europe sort itself out. Europe has been around in one form or another for some time now. Additionally its a great strategy, let Europe worry about Putin, one less thorn in the side of America..
Every single western democracy is suffering from this financial malaise. Best of luck to all.
Isn’t it nauseating to read puff pieces about him, or especially his relatives who have lost their corporate (national) sponsorship (royal status), yet cling to using their royal titles?
If Greece is a republic and even *rescinded the citizenship* of their former king’s descendants, because he was annoyingly pressing for his royal status to be restored, then the only title, of which they are deserving, is the king or queen of horse shit.
What they actually are is like is the lunatics on the internet, posting endless drivel about their ties to Jesus via King David, or just to David.
Hereditary monarchies are not based on any sort of true divine right, but on making people believe in your grift. As is represented by the Newsweek quote below, they have even convinced people that continuing to refer to them by their titles is simply a matter of etiquette? Why should they be entitled to anything more than the previously termed peasants, in a republic? And, why is an American publication pushing this nonsense?
‘However, as Shannon Power for Newsweek explains, the “general rule of etiquette is to refer to a royal by their titles, even if they have been deposed and their country does not recognise them or their hereditary appellations.”’
Pirate Wires 🏴☠️✍🏼📰 blasted the EU regulatory do-gooders last week for demanding 🔕⚖️⛓️💰 restrictions on AI when 🦥🇪🇺 Europe's anti-innovation policy positions have left them with ZERO AI TECH FIRMS! (atlas shrugged☑️)
They truly are the old world, a stale and crumbling art museum being steadily repopulated by mohamedans.....
....hey Brussels, pay up and man up or shut up and learn the Cyrillic Alphabet. No more wagon riders, pull your own cart.
Phisto, I read your post twice, but I got lost somewhere between the history of your family and the significance of Vance's speech. Having read his book, "Hillbilly Elegy," I have an increasingly difficulty time understanding the Vance of today with the Vance in his novel. He seems to be demonizing colonialism and supportive of an American isolationism. I don't see how he can possibly say those things when the President is doing no such thing himself. How soon will we see Gaza turned into a Trump version of Las Vegas?
I only heard part of it, and you're right. I should read it all before commenting, so I will.....I just came from reading it, and it's a reinforcement of what he believes Trump's position is. Highly conservative, isolationistic, and an attack on liberalism.
There's a good point there...but also wouldn't subscribe to it 100%.
It resembles again my talk with the academy of sciences professor who has done (and bless his soul for it) did many great things for science, but in the ways of the world clearly lost the plot.
Or I can bring up my German "foster dad" (there was a student exchange program back then and I was with a German family and stayed connected and visit them when I'm around), who clearly felt that things were off and I guess he thought it was just the not yet cultured thoughts(as in not "western™") of some kid from a post-commie small town when I tried to shed light on the impossibilities of the modern state. Lately he agrees with me on a lot of this stuff or at least quietly acknowledges the substance. Again...bless his soul too...it's not easy to go against what you thought all your life.
I don't think that we're lost. Not yet at least.
I don't think that we don't matter. Well...we could matter but we decided that bitching and complaining is much more safer. I know or at least I think I know the background of this thinking. My father in the "anti-world" (as he likes to call it) wrote once an article to his middle school newspaper...then was visited by the brave upholders of the "existing socialism" from the Interior Ministry. One will quickly learn from experiences like this that it is better to shut up and get on with the agenda.
"It's not that important anyway."
Consequences my brothers. That's what we are seeing right now. It may look like that there will be none, but reality will kick down the door. That's what we're seeing right now.
As I told the professor, in the end you can refer to the "international agreements" but if you want to stop the Russian, you will do it by breaking his nose. If Europe can't field 25k servicemen...that won't do it. It is what it is.
JD Vance obviously didn't say anything new, but I do feel vindicated having someone telling our dear leaders how things will be.
It's also lovely to hear the whining of our "educated" class about how we will be alone and will have to do things our way...without US help.
I mean....that's marvelous. Splendid! That's what I wanted. That's how we will MATTER again. Some people really just trying to survive life without ever truly living.
You can say that the post-war consensus was a dream. It was nice at first. Although the more we stayed asleep, the weirder it got and obviously those saw the hurt of thiy whom these Gutmenschen have sworn to protect. Marx and socialism isn't that fun and joy afterall. Helping people(truly) is a hard job and even less fun...although can be rewarding.
P.S.: you better hurry with burning the USAID to the ground. I saw who they were financing even here and I was not happy.
Great comment.
We should all soul search like this so we're prepared for what's coming.
Eurocrats BTFO. It wasn't a speech, it was an intervention. American blood and treasure spent in your defense, OR your schoolmarmish tattletale totalitarianism. Pick one. But we all know the latter can't exist without the former. Karen can only exist in the bubble of security and comfort provided by the men she hates and wishes to depose.
Eh....
His speech was a bunch of Liberty rhetoric aimed at the heart of Europe. Don't get me wrong, it's a whip to get the vassals to do his bidding, and was pulled off well. But the Liberty rhetoric was what got us to where we are in the first place.
Namely - the idea that errors and falsehoods have rights is categorically false. Leo XIII's encyclical Libertas is an astounding read on why that is, if one wants to go over that. Now, one can prudentially tolerate bad and untrue ideas for greater purposes; but that is a completely different argument than saying that it is a good, in itself, to tolerate untrue speech and false ideas.
Free speech is the weapon the weak and underpowered side uses in rhetoric to bash the head in of the powerful class in to gain the upper hand. The fact that Vance is using it is, in itself, showing that we're in the less powerful position, using it to maneuver where we want, then crush the foe (one hopes) and then quell free speech. Tell people they can't propagandize our children. They can't blaspheme God. They can't promote Sodomy. They can't lie in the media and political offices. Etc etc.
In other words; the idea that unqualified Liberty is a good, in speech, religion, or anything else... Simply must be rejected, then burnt out; root and branch.
One commenter in here called the Patton quote "over-the-top hyperbole." I call it the hardest fucking quote I've ever read, and it makes my own hyperbolic writing seem squishy and gay by comparison.
Thanks for putting that quote on my radar.
Patton’s Speech to the Third Army is required reading, in my mind! Masterclass in motivation.
BRB, writing sales copy based off Patton's speech...
The Chris Wright gave another speech in London telling them the climate alarm was all nonsense - great 1-2 punch - hope the silent majority in Europe follows the American lead and throws the communists out
based vance
Says it all. Marvelous.
Well written as usual Sir Sobanii. My direct ancestor, one “Devil John” and lieutenant of Francis Marion during the successful campaign to run Lord Cornwallis out of the southern colonies, would most certainly approve. He earned his reputation and nickname due to his penchant for assisting Tories into the hereafter.
Harsh but fair! 😀
Your general point is spot on: it’s time to rethink the TransAtlantic alliance with a “what’s in it for us” attitude, and that isn’t turning the rest of the word trans. The Patton quote is over the top hyperbole yet contains a truth about the horrors of war we would do well to remember as we try to implement this neo-Isolationism and rein in the excessive spending and waste of the American and global Military-Industrial Complex.
We are agreed on this point. Its time to leave NATO, pack up the US assets, including bases and ports of call and head home. America can no longer afford the financial burden. It can be better spent at home, think North Carolina and the disaster last summer.Take care of your own.
Let Europe sort itself out. Europe has been around in one form or another for some time now. Additionally its a great strategy, let Europe worry about Putin, one less thorn in the side of America..
Every single western democracy is suffering from this financial malaise. Best of luck to all.
Eff the king and that entire royal cohort.
Isn’t it nauseating to read puff pieces about him, or especially his relatives who have lost their corporate (national) sponsorship (royal status), yet cling to using their royal titles?
If Greece is a republic and even *rescinded the citizenship* of their former king’s descendants, because he was annoyingly pressing for his royal status to be restored, then the only title, of which they are deserving, is the king or queen of horse shit.
What they actually are is like is the lunatics on the internet, posting endless drivel about their ties to Jesus via King David, or just to David.
Hereditary monarchies are not based on any sort of true divine right, but on making people believe in your grift. As is represented by the Newsweek quote below, they have even convinced people that continuing to refer to them by their titles is simply a matter of etiquette? Why should they be entitled to anything more than the previously termed peasants, in a republic? And, why is an American publication pushing this nonsense?
‘However, as Shannon Power for Newsweek explains, the “general rule of etiquette is to refer to a royal by their titles, even if they have been deposed and their country does not recognise them or their hereditary appellations.”’
https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/09/21/greek-royal-family-royal-titles/
Pirate Wires 🏴☠️✍🏼📰 blasted the EU regulatory do-gooders last week for demanding 🔕⚖️⛓️💰 restrictions on AI when 🦥🇪🇺 Europe's anti-innovation policy positions have left them with ZERO AI TECH FIRMS! (atlas shrugged☑️)
They truly are the old world, a stale and crumbling art museum being steadily repopulated by mohamedans.....
....hey Brussels, pay up and man up or shut up and learn the Cyrillic Alphabet. No more wagon riders, pull your own cart.
Phisto, I read your post twice, but I got lost somewhere between the history of your family and the significance of Vance's speech. Having read his book, "Hillbilly Elegy," I have an increasingly difficulty time understanding the Vance of today with the Vance in his novel. He seems to be demonizing colonialism and supportive of an American isolationism. I don't see how he can possibly say those things when the President is doing no such thing himself. How soon will we see Gaza turned into a Trump version of Las Vegas?
Did you listen to or read Vance's speech for yourself?
I only heard part of it, and you're right. I should read it all before commenting, so I will.....I just came from reading it, and it's a reinforcement of what he believes Trump's position is. Highly conservative, isolationistic, and an attack on liberalism.